25. Unleashing Creativity After Stroke: How Hobbies Inspire Resilience and Growth for Stroke Survivors

Hey, hey he couple quick notes before we hop into Episode 25 of global survival podcast this week. I, in this episode, we talk a lot about hobbies, the importance they play in recovery. Hobbies, I could talk about how he's forever, I love doing different things. I love exploring different things. Hobbies are just like, honestly, if I could figure out a way to turn hobbies into a career, God, it would be my favorite, I just, I love doing different things, I love being able to put something down. When I'm not so into it, I love things, there are things that I love deeply, there are things that I love, kind of on the side, to so many different things I have. As a lifelong learner, I think you can never have enough hobbies. And I know a lot of people have tons of hobbies. It's this is a big topic. I don't think I did a great job covering all aspects. But again, a really big, big topic. There are people who struggle to find hobbies, I think there are definitely ways to get into it. I think it's super helpful as a survivor, it helps keep an active mind. Because I've got to this tone in the podcast. But I think one of the major things that is to me important in stroke recovery, at least in my journey, it has been and continues to be is really keeping an active mind. And as somebody who's 40 I'm not at, I'm right in the middle. I'm not at either end. I'm not a three game of life. I'm not at the end of life. Hopefully. Fingers crossed. Yeah, but I do think in the middle, I've seen myself have a journey. I've seen other people who I've seen my parents who are retired, they stayed very active after retiring. They unfortunately passed away early. But it wasn't due to an idle mind. Or, you know, I just I think we've seen it in movies. And I think you see it a lot, I think. And again, of course it depends on who, when, where what saw these factors, but just keeping busy having fun exploring, like, it's just a good fun way to kind of very simply keep an active mind. Um, you know, for stroke survivors, it helps a little bit with occupational therapy, a little bit of dexterity if you have some deficits there. I don't know. I think it just helps build community. I think there are tons of online communities, tons of other things. So, again, there's no shortage of topics here on this episode this week, episode 25 of the podcast. You Yeah, we jump in. I give some recommendations. Some things I've tried a lot about DJing, which is a very new hobby for me, kind of or actually, it's a very old hobby, but I'm revisiting it now at age 40. That was a lot of fun. In fact, I'm ready to hop off here and do a little D DJing. This week. Who knows where it goes, but yeah, to sort of the cool hobby of mine, having fun exploring and just loving life. So I am gonna go take a break. Enjoy my final evening of the summer with kids before they go back to school. And I will see you next week. But for now, enjoy episode 25 Oh 15 was Robert Jemison? No, man, that's an awesome feeling. Mine is will Schmierer Welcome back to another episode of The Global search our podcast today is episode 25 of the podcast. And I am back after a week off. Before we get into too many things about this week's show, which is all about hobbies and the magic or the role they play in stroke recovery. So we're going to talk a lot about hobbies today but before we do I want to hop out our habit to there was no episode last week. I am in the process of uploading all the videos that were not filmed but just the the audio video sort of things to YouTube. And then I did record the last couple episodes with Riverside to do video and audio I have not still I put some clips on social you might have seen but I've not done the full videos yet. And those are coming out soon. I guess I'm trying to get a little bit ahead. I don't really know what's holding me up. Except for same reason. I did not record an episode last week I again have been recording a little bit more in bulk. I'm trying to get into a process where I always have like two or three in the tank. They are kind of they're not fully there. Anyways, last week as a stroke survivor living with that, as I had a little bit of a hiccup, as I like to call it, it was nothing, it would have been nothing crazy or super severe or alarming or nothing that it just was a thing I wasn't feeling well, last Thursday night, tried to get through it. My wife and kids were out of town, my daughter was home. Thankfully, she and I agreed, let's just take a trip over to to the local hospital because it was pretty late, yet checked out. After some tests, after some scans, Stace, nothing appeared to be wrong. So I don't know if I missed some medication or, you know, kind of the life of being a stroke survivor and somebody living with MS is sometimes you just had these things that unfortunately happened for one reason or another. Again, I think I missed a medication. I wasn't really crushing myself. There was no heavy. You know, honestly, I was excited, like kids are back to school this week. They're not in school yet, but they will be this week, which as a parent, again, is exciting for me. But yeah, everything seems to be going well. And you know, I do a lot of work on myself. I talked about it endlessly. mental physical work, a lot of running a lot of eating healthy, trying to do all three things. And still, sometimes things just your brain. Depending on what you have, you might just have a misfire, you might just have a little hiccup I wish. Honestly, I wish I knew what it was so that I could proactively prevent it because I thought it might be a little bit of a seizure. I've had that before. Before I went on medication back in 2024, that I don't have epilepsy, thankfully. So I'm still able to drive. I haven't really had any episodes to speak of nothing showed up in this scan. So the good news is nothing serious. Feeling better. It did take me a day or two to kind of reset recollect myself, but I'm feeling better. And, you know, back to running back to workout. I guess. The reason I share this is because I think as brain injury survivors, we all kind of goes through this. We have, you know, hopefully little hiccups here and there. And hopefully things are preventable, hopefully, you know, like this winds up being nothing. I'm glad it was nothing. But yeah, it doesn't take away from the frustration because again, if there was something I did, I'd like to not do it again, you know. But that's just be you know, you may have a different take on it. Anyways, feeling better and really excited for this week's episode because I was really excited for last week when I was going to record. But again, in the magic of hobbies and stroke, every kind of Rekindling, maybe you had hobbies prior to your stroke. I know I did, I had a lot of things that I was looking forward to. Again, maybe I'm different than you I was in my later 30s. At some of my stroke, we had just moved to Florida, to a new home here in the Jacksonville area. I was really, really excited. And I honestly I still am four years into this house because I know that I'm getting better. Despite last Thursday settle thing, I'm getting better I have the house, I want the space that I want the you know, my wife gets annoyed because I take it over, but because I have so many hobbies, but I think that is maybe unique to me. But here's the thing with hobbies, and we'll talk we'll jump into a lot of things. But I think hobbies are super important when it comes especially or brain injury survivors because they are things that we don't necessarily have to build into a business although I often do. I get a little excited I get a little ahead of myself. But the cool thing about hobbies is they challenge us mentally sometimes physically, you know, whether it's running, whether it's woodworking, whether it's needlepoint, I mean, these are some of these things I'm not into but like just keep our brains moving and excited. And it's just a different thing. It's nothing for work. It's nothing we have to do. There are things that we can dive into and explore. If we really love it, we can keep diving in and keep exploring if we wind up not loving it, you know, hopefully you are better than me at this. You don't spend too much money and too much time on the hobby. If it's gonna go by the wayside, but I think again with hobbies they kind of come and they go And I'll just share an example. Honestly, in the last couple weeks I've gotten back into, of all things at 40 years old. As a stroke survivor living with MS. I am getting back into DJing. And now that sounds crazy if you don't know the backstory and the context, but when I went to college at Miami 20 years ago, or 18 years ago, my second year so yeah, like, like 17 years ago, I got into EDM and electronic music because I was going to school in Miami, it was just kind of you were hearing it all the time. You hear a lot of hip hop and a lot of reggaeton but like electronic music is definitely big in Miami, and you know, I just kind of fell into it because I enjoyed going to clubs, it just there's, it's not for everybody. Everybody's got different take on it. But it's just, it's, it's, I love the culture of electronic music, and all the things it represents. But anyways, it became a big part of my life. I kind of went from hip hop in the New York, New Jersey area in high school to college, I got more into the EDM electronic scene. And again, it's very, it's big in Miami, and it's big in the clubs, and it's part of the culture down there. It's a lot of fun. I love it. I had some friends that were starting to TJ I, you know, this is early 2000s. So it was so a lot of vinyl. Which is what I started on back in the day, I never really got too far with it. It was really just a light hobby. Playing for friends playing it house parties, playing in my own house, in college with my friends. You know, before we go out, I would I would do DJing at the house before we went out to the clubs. Just just kind of like a fun hobby. Anyways, I put it to the side. I somehow I've been listening to it now for the last 20 years. My kids tries to crazy friends from Jersey, all my friends in my entire life. They don't really understand it unless they're a friend from Miami and even those friends don't always like it that much. But it's been pretty consistent for me since 2000. Definitely since Sirius Satellite Radio came out and Howard run over there in 2006. So it listen to Howard do his radio show. When that wasn't on, I was listening to the electronic music channels because they have great channels, they still do BPM channels are Deewan on Sirius XM, shout out to them. They're great. All the hosts and DJs are great. Which is really something I loved. And when I went over to Europe in college, even the high school like electronic music gets much bigger in Europe. So I just there's always been this connection. So anyways, I got back into it. Literally two weeks ago, I decided to take a huge weight class, which for anybody out there who's taken courses or hoppy courses or signed up for something on YouTube, we I so rarely finished course. I've just been a collector of courses on Udemy for the last like 10 years. But I took a couple of DJ classes two weeks ago and I blew through them. I mean, I was excited. I basically I bought a whole DJ set, I started downloading stuff because again, what I was into this back in college was all vinyl. It was you know, CD j's and all the all the things that you don't care about that I'm talking about right now, were are kind of new to me because they weren't as big or as popular as affordable back then. So this is a really fun hobby. And the thing I like about DJing is it. It's it seems random, I get it. But I've been running I've been listening to music at the gym off and on for years. I've always listened to his music, so I know it pretty well. I know, early 2000s I know late 90s early 2000s 2010 Their friends at DJ down in Miami. And so I've really been around it and I don't know I just have like, it's weird when you get to a point in your life where like a hobby you really understand like, oh my god, this has been like 20 years in the making of this hobby. Anyways, long story short, I'm getting into DJing that's been kind of fun. I don't know where it's gonna go. But right now it's just fun learning. Getting into it, just there's a lot to it. It's It's honestly I have a good base. So I don't know what comes of it, but it is really, it's been fun. It's been impactful a hidden two short weeks. And I think it's just one of these things, it gets your brain working mentally and physically, you got to do a lot of things when you're DJing. It's now for context again, going way off about DJing. But I also had a, I was a really big, big world woodworker prior to my stroke in 2021, or 2019. And in fact, the reason I bought this house really was to really build out a YouTube studio slash woodworking shop in our garage, which I sort of did. And I may still really do. However, with being a stroke survivor with Ms. I've really been slow to get back into woodworking because cutting off my fingers is not something I'm interested in, I want to make sure I'm doing it safely. It is already a dangerous hobby. Prior to having a stroke, when you have all the physical capabilities in the world, you still have to be careful. I love that building. And I think that's what hobbies kind of represent to me it's building, whether it's a side gig, it's something like DJing. It's like you're building like an atmosphere, atmosphere, you're building an environment, you're building a feeling for people. And so, you know, and all these things, they involve lots of different things. And like with woodworking in particular, it's a lot of measuring, it's a lot of cutting, it's a lot of precision. It's a lot of again, mental hurdles, mental exercises, but it's fun. You don't think of it as that I think the same thing is true with any digital work like needlepoint, knitting. Well, I know other people are in that. puzzles, maybe you're into cricket, you know, the vinyl printer, doing those things crafting a puzzle books. I mean, it spans so many things. And they're like, the cool thing about hobbies is there's no pressure, you don't have to turn it into a job, you don't have to turn it into a business, you could just have fun. And I think sometimes in life, I don't know, maybe this is me. But you hear people get so hyper focused on things that they forget to explore other things in life that it gets so busy with kids that don't even know how to pick up a hobby like aI the exact opposite problem. I have so many hobbies, I don't know how to stop having hobbies. Which is to be fair, its own problem. And you may experience this, as well as a survivor. And again, the reason I'm so passionate about this is because I have so many hobbies I love learning I love ironically, because I never loved it in school. But now I absolutely love learning about gaining knowledge sometimes sometimes it's for something I want to learn, specifically like DJing I want to get back into that. So I'm really on that right now. But then like reading books, you hear a lot of people talk about books, like I just love reading just for the information. Sometimes I want it because I want to turn it into something so then that's where reading you know, you got to read a little practice a little read a little practice a little. And I think that's just dependent on your, your goals. You know, if you enjoy reading for fun, like myself, whether it's fiction or nonfiction, do it don't let other people talk you out of it. There's nothing wrong with reading, you're not going to can't hurt yourself by reading. You know, the only thing is if you do want to kind of go on into into the next phase you do eventually have separating and start practicing everything but nothing wrong with certainly a hobby, you can read a bunch and then practice well, that's a that's a whole other thing. Anyways, I think when it comes to hobbies and its impact on stroke you know, there's a lot of benefits, there's just therapeutic benefits, there's like, you know, you're you're using your brain you're thinking you're not forcing things so much. For me, it's taught me some patients that I ever had, because prior to my stroke, I and I still struggle with this, but prior to my stroke, I went 100 miles an hour I still kind of do that. But the stroke has forced me to slow down so I'm a little bit like now finally getting to the place where like okay I want to learn everything in 10 minutes. I want to I want to know everything last week. But the reality is, it takes time. It takes you know, there's sort of for me there's like a cadence to it. Yeah, I mean really, it is as simple as just like slowing down the way the woodworking I've had this or to go back to the beginning and rebuild confidence that I definitely had prior to my stroke because I was getting to kind of I would say, bid to advance that I would definitely not say I'm the best woodworker on the planet, but I would definitely taking that next, next jump to the next level. And so you might have experienced this yourself as a stroke survivor or any brain, you're really, you do tend to take a step back. But again, with hobbies you can kind of it feels like less forced learning is more fun, it's a good, it's a good way to keep your mind sharp. Without feeling like I can do breathing exercises, nothing sounds less fun than the word brain exercise. So yeah, hobbies are a great way to just have fun, you know, and build rebuild confidence. Again, emotional healing, that resilience just re engaging with things that you used to love, because there's a reason that you just because you're a stroke survivor, and you've had a stroke, and you're doing the work, and you're studied, see some some of those benefits, you know, hobbies are a great way to just find new common friends, whether they're survivors or not just kind of getting back out there socializing. Whether that's in person or online, depends on your preference, how you're feeling about things, but there's so many communities online. And one of the great things, again, about the pandemic, I feel like I always talk about that, but I think it has to do with the timing of the world. The timing, my stroke, certainly. Now the availability to things not everything has to be in person. So you find a lot of groups, whether that's through hobbies through just general, you know, again, the great thing about hobbies is you don't have to be super serious, there's usually groups for every level, and you can kind of pick and choose as you want, with the hobby to go up and in advance to a certain level or, or just, if you just enjoy a hobby, and you just want to be like okay, at it, that's okay, too. I think sometimes we get so hyper focus on trying to be the best at everything. And again, this might be me and my age, but just I mean, obviously, it depends on what your overall goal is with the hobby, do you just want to be able to like with woodworking, for example, do you just want to be able to make a box? Sure. Like, then you probably just need a beginner course or some early videos. But again, it's I love hobbies, because it keeps the mind sharp to get different ways of thinking and working out the mind without necessarily focusing on working out your mind and your brain. So I think there are so many, so many great benefits that we often don't think about with hobbies. And I guess one of the things that brought this up to me recently is because I always hear this father adults. And I don't know if it's Millennials or people that I know in particular, I just say it's so strange to me, because I have such a passion for so many things. I'm very guilty, honestly, of getting too sidetracked against too many things, I think, which I don't really mind, because I want to be good at a lot of things. And that's just how I'm built. I'm okay with that. Again, if DJing goes nowhere, fine. But I just want to explore it because I've always been into this and it's one of the I was talking to my daughter this morning. I can't I can't think of too many things. Okay, probably woodworking, sports. EDM or dance music, whatever you really want to call it these days, because to kind of interchanges on. But I don't have a lot of things that I've been into for 20 plus years. So it just occurred to me like I guess design would be the probably the fourth thing. But yeah, I know. I don't know where we're going with that. Exactly. I just, you know, I want to be able to share that. Hobbies come and go. Again, this this is not specific to stroke survivors. I just think that the benefits of having hobbies, or exploring new hobbies and new topics that might be of interest, because the other thing about being a stroke survivor, I think we all know this is the brain works in mysterious ways. We don't know as much as we know about the brain and as far as scientists come, we still don't know a ton of things. And I never specifically met somebody who's had this but I have certainly talked to enough doctors and medical professionals staff to know that as a stroke survivor You've probably heard similar stories where like somebody who is not, for example, from the UK, who's had a stroke, I don't know, maybe the Canadian or from the US and they've had a stroke and somehow some way rare. This is not common. But I've heard people have literally been able to pick up new languages super quick as a result of their stroke. Some people have woken up with new accents, like it's crazy. I mean, so why couldn't you maybe have had an inkling you are into something one time prior, your stroke had a stroke, and all of a sudden, you start doing it and you practices and you find one you really love it to suddenly you're amazing at it. No drawbacks, in my mind. Kind of like nasal breathing. Like once you figure it out, you're like, oh, where has this been my whole life. That was again, that was specific to me. But I really do believe Nasal Breathing is pretty advantageous once you realize and once you practice nasal breathing and better breathing practices and do some breath work, I guess like, Where was that I thought those much hocus pocus bullshit was winds up being for me, it was an amazing transformation going from being a cigarette smoker to a nasal breather at age 39 That immediately within months of starting nasal breathing, I started running and I've been running ever since. So you know, these are just things that I'm bringing out to your attention because I think hobbies are there's so many benefits I can't even list all the benefits in this episode. However, there is sometimes I know for me with hobbies, there are some struggles and I woodworking was something I was super big into I couldn't wait to move into this house in 2018 build out the shop, do all these things. Now I'm slowly very slowly getting back into it. Starting with some really small simple projects, nothing advanced no major cutting, no major sawing, like I've got all the tools kind of in place. I haven't really designed my my shop the way I want. But I'm starting small. And so I've had to overcome that obstacle and like kind of overcome some of the hurdles of like getting back into it because I wanted to right away I was frustrated that I lacked the dexterity sometimes and the confidence and just couldn't do a lot of things that I obviously could do prior to my stroke with woodworking so that has been a bit of an issue and I think it doesn't matter if you're into woodworking or anything at whatever the hobbies you might have been added to an Excel that prior and we know this because I've talked about this too like typing not it's not a hobby but it's just there are things that are frustrating, especially if you're somebody who remembers how everything was right up until the day your stroke depending on your stroke and the deficits you might have experienced at the end of your stroke you know, it just takes time to rebuild the competence and overcome the obstacles because you can't do things SSR I certainly can't do all the things that I want to do as quickly sub i can't even do it at all still. Oh well I think we're Yeah, I mean there's definitely things I still can't necessarily do like tying my shoes I'll give you that one I think so I think this couple episodes but three and a half years into my stroke I can actually tie my shoes now but it is still very clumsy. Very awkward. I I've been running for a year but honestly just this summer have I really gotten to the level but like still not as fast as I want to be. And I don't want to be fast for the sake of being fast. I want to be fast just just have my workouts specifically when I'm running take a little bit less less time where I would like to be probably in the meeting like the average face to be 1010 1011 minute miles I guess. Like honestly I'd love them be like 910 but not quite there, but pretty close. So I am still working on that. And again these are these are The there's nothing wrong with any of these things, but the hobbies, I think it's just part of what we go through as survivors is that you, we understand the benefits of, you know, either re engaging in hobbies, picking new hobbies, just trying new things. And that's the thing about being a survivor is just like being open. I know I, for one, things I was closed off to prior to my stroke, I've really tried to make an effort to be open to more things. And I think picking up hobbies, again, they don't have to be lifelong hobbies, they could just be like, I'm kind of interested in this thing. I'm going to learn about it. And then you spend a week, two weeks a month, depending on your level of engagement from the get go. You can always pick it down, you can pick pick it back up later. It's just all this, you know. I guess the one thing I would say is give it enough time. See if it's something you really want to explore more. You know, for me like woodworking, I know I loved it before, it was a little harder now. So it's like I pick it up every now and then see where I'm at. I feel good. Like right now building a little box are very hard project. And it's not very literal, either. It's actually a three box, but it's. But I'm not like me four years ago, I would have tried to build it in a weekend. Now I'm like, Man, I'll do some cuts this week, I'll put it down or revisited over the weekend. It doesn't have to be built in five minutes. In fact, I don't want it to be because I don't want to get frustrated, I just want to be able to build it. Do it nicely. So I think that that's a lot of slow down. Take your time, things I should have done. Prior to my stroke of the things I'm sort of realizing now. I want to do it. It's important. To me, it's something I want to build. But it doesn't have to be done. There's nobody, nobody paying me for it. It's something I want to do for me. And I'm staying on top of it. But I'm not necessarily doing it every five minutes, or I'm not doing you know, I guess doing a little bit on each day would be nice. But I'm not putting pressure on myself. I just wanna have fun. It's not it's, it's on the table in the shop. I'm not doing 40 Other projects right now. So I have to space to kind of build, do some cuts, make some work, go do a Google up, put down revisited a few days. And so I do think it is it is hobbies are a good way to rebuild confidence, rebuild, you know, emotional connection to things that you used to love. And just rebuilding confidence in general. And again, I think the other thing that's big is you know, I've talked a lot about building out a community of stroke survivors. And that has gone a little slower than I anticipated. I I actually am meeting with my stroke survivor group here locally next week. So I'm curious to talk to some of them. Because I kind of see how I want to move forward with that. Because I put a lot of thought into it over the summer things have been. It's been a weird summer. I think I've said that the last couple episodes. I've said pretty untracked here, obviously, last week was a hiccup. I think I missed one episode in June, probably but you know, we're on episode 25. And I really have been doing it pretty consistently on a weekly basis, this podcast since January. And I didn't start at the beginning of the year. So you know, I think I'm 25 for 28 weeks, give or take. So I feel good about that. And I as a survivor, I don't know about you, but I feel it was here this consistency, consistency, consistency. And I think that is important. But also as a stroke survivor, especially having Ms. I just think we should give ourselves some grace as survivors. With Airsoft, we're building a business just you know, building awareness building community, whatever, whatever you're into as a survivor. I think you have to, we have to give ourselves grace. And I know other people mean well, but I do. I'll say this again, I say this all the time. I don't know I want to hear but like I love doctors, nurses, medical professionals. I mean, last Thursday night when I was at the hospital. I hadn't been to the hospital a little while, like a long time. I would admit to a doctor's office and a couple of months because I slow down on my appointments thankfully. I just forgot how much I enjoy kind of being in the hospital. I said delegate sounds weird. You know, you don't want to be there but when you're there or I'm there. These people are helping save lives are helping You know, they're sacrificing time with their family to save other people's lives to help other people get well. You know, my case, like I didn't know what was going on, and we were trying to figure it out. They were just, I was sitting there in the hospital the whole time just trying to entertain the staff and the different medical professionals that were in and out seeing me. I will say doctors are a little harder to entertain than, than the nursing staff and the CNAs and things like that. But yeah, I don't know. I just I just I'm so appreciative of the people that work in the ER and you know, the hospital down here that I go to sometimes. And to be fair, I go there sometimes because I'm there for other things because I have some appointments through that network and through that hospital, so are they going off? They're off and on since by stroke in 2019. So we're on like, three years now three, three and a half years. Anyways, yes, so many great people. So I shout out to the medical staff there at the Baptist network here in Jacksonville, Florida. So many great people. They're always wonderful staff always down to make jokes. Yeah, could not be more thankful for them. And like I said, I'm really glad it was kind of nothing. At this point, we all agree it's Yeah. We shall see getting some more tests done in a couple of weeks for my annual ms checkup. So hopefully, hopefully there's nothing but yeah, really excited. Not so excited to go to Baptist really, but it was it was good to silver lining of going to the hospital is it was good to kind of see some old friends at at the facility. What are others seeing them under different circumstances but never a dull moment at about this facility? And they're always great. So anyways, hobbies. I don't know if you're into it, check it out. I you know, whether it's reading needlepoint knitting God so many hobbies, I can't like my head's gonna explode about how many hobbies I'm thinking of right now. But I am zero to 100 right now on DJing. We'll see how that goes. Next up, I will do a check in next week when I when I do the next episode. But again, there are so many so many great hobbies, so many great things to explore. I highly recommend you check it out. If you are somebody who is a survivor and you know, maybe you're no longer working or is older, or you know, hobbies are just a great way to keep the mind sharp, have fun, keeping the mind sharp. Yeah, just keeping the mind active in in a positive impact. Now when you think about keeping the mind active, especially after a brain injury or stroke or anything like that, so some fun things you recommend this week? I'm still reading Titan because it is apparently the longest book I've chosen to read this year. So enjoy it. About three quarters of the way through I just I'm gonna I'm into it. I don't know why Rockefeller was I don't know the gutter better app. I just I find it fascinating. I find his story fascinating. Who knows what it you know, it's kind of like specs we hear from doctors or different survivor facts you hear like one in 10 People blah, blah. I don't I was around the 1800 CEOs AC and the way it's written is really good. Read just kind of interesting love biographies. That one's definitely great podcast recommendations. Good for you with Whitney Cummings. She is fantastic. On top of DJing this summer, I've been really, really get back into comedy. In fact, I'm trying to get my daughter to take a improv class with me here in Florida this summer or this fall because she is taking classes at home this semester, just to kind of do some different things. And we know anyway, since she's be kind of at home this fall. And I you know, I'm trying to get her to explore different things and she's been into exploring hobbies. I think that's kind of why I got back into some hobbies. Cuz she was talking about getting back into soccer. Because she has played soccer since 20 point 18. And yeah, so she's into soccer. That has nothing to do with Whitney Cummings podcasts, but I'm back into comedy and she's got a good podcast which is fantastic, amazing comedian. Forecast is always good. Tom Segura, two bears 1k with Burton calm another new one is top off. Ah, have a catch up on some of his episodes really like that. South Florida so weird. Jim Gaffigan still amazing DJing is the new thing I recommend everyone out there listening to this we do stuff favorite. Pick a new hobby. explore it, see where it goes. You know if it goes nowhere, okay? Okay Can other one. I don't know. That's my recommendation this week. Anyways, hope you found this episode. Valuable hope you are enjoying the podcast and if you are see check us out on YouTube. Subscribe, like and subscribe on YouTube. Ticket us check us out on all your favorite podcast platforms Apple Spotify is on it's good pods is my new favorite this year highly recommended. I know there's a ton of other great podcast platforms. Plenty things. I think that's it for episode 25 of the past Yes. So bye for now.