20. The importance of humor in stroke recovery and learning to say no to things that don't bring you joy!

So a couple of things to mention off the bat. Before we hop into this week's episode of the podcast. I watched a interesting thing on Netflix that I really enjoyed, which was the Arnold series, if you will, I don't know. I highly recommend it. I enjoyed it. I don't know Arnold personally. Yeah, I'm sure that's shock to all of you. But I do have the bodybuilding book from way back in the day. I used it in college. I've had it since college. Arnold, like a lot of you, you know, he influenced me getting into bodybuilding. Even though he started many years before me. His books in his exercise exercise in that Arnold encyclopedia as comprehensive as heck. I really enjoyed it. I my friends really enjoyed it in college. And yeah. So the interesting thing about it was I was watching it in the background, doing some things helping my wife with some things over the weekend at the computer. And Arnold said something interesting that stuck with me while I was thinking about doing the, you know, this week's episode and talking about the podcast, and it's just he Well, he loves doing serious things. He loves doing good work. I know he's gotten into trouble for a little bit of, you know, some issues. Yeah, again, I don't know him personally, I don't know if it's hearsay. I don't know if it's true. I kind of want to believe it's not true, but I think it probably is true. To my knowledge, it's never been like end of the world but not great stuff. Not a good look. However, I you know, I think he his message is so resonated with me. I mean, he's always very thankful to be a US citizen. He's, you know, served as governor of California. I mean, obviously, it's a little you know, it's an interesting thing, but I think he said something that I really liked, and that was that, if it's not fun, he doesn't really want to do it. And I think that resonates with me. Anyways, I think it's a good little miniseries, if you want to watch a three episode deal, I had to watch it again, to be fully honest. You know, nothing I remember seeing looked terrible. Everything was pretty good. But you know, it was a little, a little fluffy, probably. But I enjoyed it. It was nice little mini series. And then book recommendation, I started Paris, the memoir over the weekend. If you know me, you you'd probably think that's ridiculous. But um, unfair to Paris Hilton. She gets a bad rap a lot of the times and, you know, she's into DJing. She's had a pretty successful career by by most accounts. And she's Yes, she's just, she's just absolutely herself. She owns it, she loves it. I just really gravitate towards people who kind of take ownership of their their life and their shit. And she, you know, she she's had to go and endure some difficult ash shed and yeah, I don't know. Just, she's pretty cool. I mean, again, I've never met her. I don't know her personally, but books so far is really good. And she talks a lot about ADHD and some of the things resonate with me. I've never been officially diagnosed, I don't really care to be officially diagnosed. I think a lot of stroke survivors can relate even if you're not technically die, you know, ADHD, I think there's a lot of things that resonate. And one of the things she said that really stuck with me right up until I started recording this episode today is that you know, it is a people talking about ADHD like it's, uh, you know, and I just like her take on it. Um, she's not really obsessing about it, she's just like, Okay, this is the thing people call me lazy, they call me this, they call me that. And it's all kind of related to ADHD because she's very smart. But she definitely got a bad rap. You know, growing up where people thought she was lazy or XYZ and it really just is they're all symptoms and related to ADHD and I think you know, any stroke survivor who's gone through or anybody a brain injury, major medical life event can probably relate. It feels similar you have for me, I think I related because I have endless energy, but sometimes I need help channeling that energy and I think that is one of the things she said that really resonated with me so I don't know I look forward to finishing that book. Anyways, those are my takes on those things and Yeah, we'll leave it there. Let's hop into Episode 20 a podcast starting now Welcome back to another episode of The Lovable Survivor podcast. This week in Episode 20, we are going to be focusing on the power of saying no and having fun, every day, and everything we do in life as a stroke survivor, because what the hell are we doing if we're doing things we don't want to do, and we're not having fun. I don't think any of us as stroke survivors, brain injury survivors, survivors of any major medical life fent CIT, even if you're not a stroke survivor, haven't been through things. I think this can resonate with you. I mean, whether you're an entrepreneur, you work for yourself. Again, stroke injury, stroke, stroke survivor, brain injury survivor, any medical major life event. Yeah, these are difficult things that we go through. And part of what I want to talk about today is really, um, just honestly, this episode, just as much for me as it is for everybody else, it's kind of a new to myself. Because I'm just, honestly, I am flat out. Well, I'm going to apologize in advance. I am, I'm fired up. And I will tell you why in a second. But yeah, I'm just hired to doing things that I no longer want to do. I didn't like, I'm not a stroke survivor, who? I don't know, I think we owe it to ourselves, right? Like, again, this is not an easy thing to overcome. In any, you know, if you're not going, if you are going through, you know, if you're you're not physically going through recovery, you know, from stroke or brain injury, you know, it's gonna be harder to understand, but it's just, it just changes your life in so many ways. But yeah, I just did something just hit me like the last week where I'm just like, What am I doing? Like, as an entrepreneur, I've kind of like, gone back to my old ways, a little bit in terms of like, yes, I want to make money. Yes, I want to run successful businesses, but I've gotten away from like, nickel, I don't walk away from a career to go work for myself to do things that I don't want to do. And I'm not talking about like, difficult or challenging things like, you know, physical therapy, right? Like, there are definitely exercises my physical therapy team makes me do that I don't really want to do but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about like, things that you tell yourself, you should do. And yes, sometimes it is good to check in with yourself and make sure you're doing. You know, I'm not saying you have fun every two seconds, but like, when as a creator, right, like, I want to be helpful to other people, as you know, with this guest, I want it to be helpful for other people, depending on their particular phase of the journey of recovery. You know, but I want to get back to having fun, like, I was just talking about it in the open where I was watching Arnold, and he was saying something over the weekend in the Netflix special, where it's like, he doesn't want to do it if it's not fun. Now, I can't remember exactly what he was talking about when he was talking about that. But it makes sense. It resonates with me, because it's like, you know, why am I saying yes to things that I don't really want to do. When you go through a major life event, and you come out the other side, and you've recovered or you've made it through, you can realize like, it is as cliche as hell, right? But life is short. And I just don't want to there's certain stuff I have no interest in doing. Now is easy to always say no, no, of course it's not. I have kids, I have a wife. She's young, we I have extended family on pretty good about not, you know, caring what other people think. And you know, this is not, you know, always going to be able to say no, but I think you owe it to yourself as a survivor to really trust your gut. And really, don't embrace the power of know if I'm being honest, like, and again, that's today's theme. Easier said than done. But I think when you really understand and how freeing it is to say no, whether that's a phone call, you don't want to take, I mean, again, all within reason, but like, I'll give you a good example. This week has been very busy. That's why I'm a day late and $1 short with this episode of the podcast, which is coming out Wednesday, the 14th. Because I have just been super busy. My wife was out of town last week, we were supposed to be on vacation. She was out of town with the kids, she came home, she was busy, she was working, the kids were home, we decided scattered two weeks. And so everybody's away again. Which is fine. Now we've got everything kind of under control to some things that are out of our control that life has thrown at us, again, not complaining, everybody's in good health and good shape on this side on. You know, there are some things going on behind the scenes with Francisco's family. You know, but we're managing. And this is, again, kind of where I got on that track of saying no. You know, for me, I don't want to seem ungrateful, I don't want to seem unsupportive. But sometimes I just have to say no for myself for getting it and for maintaining my own mental health, maintaining the quality of what life that I've worked so hard to get back to. And I think a lot of survivors can kind of resonate with this. It's, it's not easy. Like I said, it's just, it is difficult to learn. If you're not good at saying no, but I promise you, if you start to you know, it's a hard thing to teach people to say no, but I think you start small, like anything else else in life. You know, to some people, you know, you may feel like you have to make certain excuses or give certain reasons, I encourage you to try not do that and just say, Hey, I'm a little tired. I'm just not up for it today. You know, you don't have to do it as hell like I do. I just say no all the time. Now. I'm great at it to some degree. But again, I you know, I struggle with it too, as well. Like, I want to help everybody, but sometimes I just can't. And I think that is important, as a survivor. For us to understand, and you know, you have to listen to your gut. And if your gut is telling you, probably not, then the answer probably is probably not. It's okay. You know, you can always circle back with something you want to say yes to. But ultimately, you have to say no, take a rain check. Like yesterday, we I kind of forced that thing to happen. I wanted to go see some friends with my wife, where I haven't seen them when in a while. wife has gone out of town today with kids again. So we kind of jammed it in. And you know, it wasn't in real world. But yeah, that's why the podcasts it's a daily you know, so anyways, yeah, saying no, is definitely not easy. But if you're trying to work on your overall mental health post stroke, I do encourage you to, as a survivor to start to work on saying no, so you can start slow. You know, if you're a caregiver, family member, listen to this podcast. Understand that? Even if somebody wants to say yes, or you know, sometimes you need them to say no, because I think in life, we all have great friendships, great relationships with like, you know, when somebody's just not 100% It's, it's not the same. So I think, recognizing that in family members and friends, that are survivors, understanding that is something that, you know, sometimes that sometimes you need to help them help themselves and I know that sounds corny, but to some degree. We're not always great at recognizing our own, you know, stay out of our own way. So again, it's a powerful tool don't be afraid to say no and and you can always kind of reassess, take a raincheck re you know, reorganize by another time, there's just lots of times you know, but you know that just don't beat yourself up about it. And if you say no, and you hear you know, again, realize it's not the end of the world but like yeah, sometimes saying no, yeah, this is this app to where you say no, it is difficult because you really want to do it. But ultimately it's may not be the best time or the just the best situation for you. So be prepared to talk about it. You're going to feel a little guilty sometimes you can Uh, you know, have that FOMO fear of missing out. And then there's societal expectations sometimes. Especially in group settings. And I just encourage, don't I have conversations with friends all the time. And it's like, boy, you think they understand what it's like to be a survivor and the people people listen, but they don't really understand. Like, I was talking to a friend about running yesterday. And it's like, Meow II sort of understands. But he also doesn't like it's relearning to run is just an example. But like relearning to run as a stroke survivor is so unbelievably difficult, I can't even explain it to people. This may be partly my fault, but it's just like, the best way to explain it is like one I'm running at a pace of like, four and a half by miles an hour. That feels like in my brain, now, every stroke is different, but like, my brain feels like I'm running 6789 miles per hour, like it feels much faster than it is. And even down to act technique, like simple thing, like arm swing, you take for granted when you're, you're not a stroke driver. And then when you're a stroke survivor, and you have to relearn how to walk and run, like, there's so many mechanics that we've taken for granted. And I just, even, you know, even with careful practice now, and I'm working on it, I'm getting a lot better. Just says so many things, like, sometimes if I don't pay attention, I land much more on my heel than my middle of my foot. Or sometimes I'm pushing off too much with the toes. And it's just, it's, it's sometimes I yelling my body. You know, I'm, again, I'm working on it, but like, sometimes I'll be like, you know, usually, your arm swing, it's like, you know, if you're hitting with your right foot, you're usually if you're hitting with the right bet, you're probably swinging the left hand, right, but sometimes I'll catch it like, I'll be like, like, you know, baseball, when you throw if you're right handed, you extend your left leg forward, and you throw with your right foot, or you throw with your right hand. But if you remember when little kids by baseball, sometimes in beginnings, they're like, if they're right handed, they'll throw with the right hand and they'll do that awkward step with the step with the right foot and throw with the right hand which is improper. And usually, you know, what coaches will correct that with younger kids and the same thing is kind of happening sometimes with running if I don't pay attention all of a sudden I'm like, you know, alternating feet, shifting the weight in my feet. Again, it's not a bad thing you think about until your stroke survivor is like when your strokes are getting back to running you don't realize how much you had to focus on like foot down and like shifting wheat and arm swing this way and just I don't know it's it's a lot but anyways got way off track there. Look at me. I'm already talking about Paris Hilton ADHD and here I am totally not channeling my energy and focusing on what I'm supposed to do which is why I write these outlines for the podcasts these days. so that I stay on track. Anyways, that's a big topic. I just encourage you to remember to say no when you feel like you need to say no and you don't have to apologize for it. You certainly can if you want to but I just can't say this enough and I've been pretty good about this from from honestly from the jump with my stroke which is like I'm just I'm really good at saying no so good that sometimes I do feel guilty for the amount of times I say no, but I just have to you know it's tough. It is tough but don't let the only person you should be arguing with when you say no to something is yourself at the end of the day because you know sometimes we do say no so much that perhaps we're not saying yes to things that we want to know but that kind of takes us into number two which is again from watching Arnold, I was thinking about this over the weekend and it kind of just ties in randomly to the pocket. So I was thinking about I don't want to do things that are no longer fun. Now I am trying to build a business working specifically with survivors and I got some notes ones coming up probably next episode of Behind the Scenes of working on some new things. You know, I talked about doing some coaching calls that will I will talk about that next week. Coming up building the community, which is slower than I initially anticipated, I probably should, you know, I'm going to say should, which I hate, but I'm trying to get a little bit more feedback before I really open up the community because I've shifted a little bit because it was taking me a lot of good amount of time to get things rolling. And I'm trying to incorporate some new some new things and some new kind of collaborations that will make it easier for everybody. And like, I think it'll be even better as a result. So yeah, you know, anybody can start a community and start building relationships and collaborating as you go. But because things have not been fully opened yet, you know, I'm going to I'm going to bring some other collabs together before launching, which, you know, we'll see how that works out. But I think for the better but yeah, I mean, that's, that's another thing like that's, that is a way to make the community more fun. And again, just remembering to incorporate fun in daily life now everybody has a different take on what's fun, but like, I just I've been catching myself on online talking to other people having conversations and I'm saying yes, sometimes the things I really want to say no to and things you know, it's taken a little while to make this shift from coaching predominantly working with women to working with survivors. It's been slower than I would like, but I know I'm headed down the right path. You know, it took me a while to get here to work with survivors it was kind of like not the thing I wanted to be known for the first couple years after my stroke I you know, I still struggle with this but I'm more open to you know, to what it means I think it there's some hurdles right for me personally, mentally, I can never want to be a guy that was known for anything other than being fucking awesome and having a good time. And you know, my previous career I wanted to be known as a good developer, but he didn't want to be known as the best that that's still kind of a thing that's always been a part of my life where I want to be very good I want to be part of the conversation but I do not necessarily want to be the best. This is not where I thrive. I want to be known as very helpful very, very loving, very caring give a shit about the people that are most important to me a life but again being the best man does not necessarily the role I need like you know when you think about the bulls in the 90s right you pick in Jordan and Pippen the they want six strings together but they won five of those six with Dennis Rodman The thing I love about Rodman is that we are kind of very similar in a lot of ways. But they don't they don't get to six Kelly and Michael don't get to six without Dennis being an active role in five of those championships. And what I like about Dennis was he was an integral part of those six you know, Michael and Scotty winning six championships and of course he was only a member at the team for five but he was an enormous part of them winning by those five that he was part of and what I like about tennis was huge Oh scrappy, a little bit different not the norm you know I think that's that's that really resonates with me I've been thinking about it for a while. Yeah, just I'm a big fan of Dennis Rodman and the way he played basketball the role he played in bowls championships and bowls history, you know, you think about Dennis Rodman being a quite a bit different than your average NBA player. And he was he was an amazing defender. He's an amazing rebounder, he was obviously not known for scoring, but the guy is in the Hall of Fame. And for all the stuff off the court and all of the antics. Again, the bulls don't win those six championships. I mean, Michael and Scottie, again, were a big part, but I don't think they weren't all of those without Dennis. And, you know, that's pretty clear because Dennis was inactive. And the part of the big three, I guess, of that era, when the bulls won all six, you know? So anyways, and what I like about Dennis and what I like got Arnold from His specialty is that, you know, they're, they are true to themselves. They incorporate fun into daily life. I mean, there's tons of things Ways everybody can incorporate fun. You don't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, Dennis Rodman dosers examples. You know, but I think you owe it to yourself to explore things. I'm not saying don't do hard things, I'm not saying don't work hard at your recovery, I'm not saying, you know, we all have to do things in life that are not particularly fun. It says, I guess what I'm saying is like, check in with a shelf, often, make sure you're enjoying the things that you're doing in life, because if you're not enjoying it, it's going to, it's not gonna last, it's not going to be long term successful. You know, and again, going back to working with survivors and stroke, it was not something I wanted to be known for, but I'm starting to embrace it, because I realized I can help a lot of fellow stroke survivors who are earlier in the journey, even maybe further along in the journey, and maybe I just have a different perspective I can offer. You know, it's just it's a difficult thing to navigate. And as hard as it is, is injecting a little bit humor into everyday life is important, I think, for anybody, but especially for our survivor, because it's such a difficult thing to overcome. It's a constant struggle. I mean, people look at me, and they're like, Oh, you look fine. And that that is true. To some degree, I'm pretty good overall health, but I have days where things are awful. I have things like I have a chaotic life still, like I'm a father, I'm 40 years old. I'm a father of three daughters in college boys that are under the age of 10. Oh, well, wife with a family. With some members, not in great health. It's it's not impossible, but you know, I guess, you know, again, it's a real kind of a reminder to myself is like, am I having fun? am I enjoying what I'm doing? And I absolutely am, I know, this podcast, it really is meant to be fun, and light hearted. And it's a reminder for me to continue to keep working and incorporating that in every episode. You know, and it is important to find that in in your life, and your recovery and your journey as a stroke survivor, because I know how difficult it is i and again, I'm happy to talk about it, I did. It is not easy. You know, I feel like I have found my stride a little bit this last year, which is, you know, I don't want to say impressive. It's just, you hear so often from the stroke community that they've heard these things where doctors tell them X, Y, and Z. And again, doctors are, for the most part amazing, and they're not telling you things to be Su and they're not telling you things to get you down there. They, most doctors are genuinely trying to prepare, you know, they're very practical. They're not incorrect. And if you don't work things, it's not going to get better. So there is that. Obviously, if you're listening to this podcast, you probably have some interest in getting better as things go on. And you probably are getting better as time has progressed. You know, but it doesn't make it less frustrating. It's just, I'm sharing my story with you so that you could feel hopefully less alone and know that, you know, if you're earlier in their journey, and having a tough time it can definitely get better as you progress. You know, I was able to walk after a year one, but I was not able to walk the way I wanted to nothing felt normal, I certainly wasn't able to run until like two and a half years in. So you know, it takes a lot of adapting. I think we talked about the last episode, but again, you might have some hobbies from the past that you are no longer able to do and that can certainly be frustrating, especially if you're looking for an outlet adapting to your you know, kind of accepting your current situation, know that you're working on things to get better and back to certain hobbies. But maybe you're exploring new hobbies that are that are fun, and hopefully, you know, I'll just give an example. I mean, yes, I'm younger, I'm now 40 And I'm kind of glad I never got into adaptive sports, which is a big thing down here in Jacksonville, Florida. Within the Brooks community and for me, it's not that I'm glad I didn't get into adaptive sports necessarily, but I you know, it's pushing I'm not saying don't get into adaptive sports, but I'm glad I've had because of COVID I wasn't able to get into things right away. And I think that has worked out to my benefit because it's pushed me I unknowingly to work hard to like, play basketball with my boys. Which is something honestly, in year one I couldn't imagine even a year or two, I was barely imagining, you know, now it's so very awkward. Don't get me wrong. I'm not the basketball player I once was, but it's not impossible. And I could see that if I really am seeing that when I really put the effort in to things and I really slow down and start basically back from scratch that I can slowly build back up. It's not fast it's not the way it was before my stroke you know, similar with running it's it's not where I want to be but I I'm making progress to get toward to a level that I want to be. Not as quickly as I'd like things to be, obviously. Well, maybe it is. But yeah, it's still a frustrating it is painfully frustrating. I think we can all agree on that. But it's fun when you realize, okay, it's it's not snapping things are not snapping back the way I had hoped or wanted or believed I might because I was young. A younger shrugs are not air quoting. Sorry, you can't see me air quoting. But yeah, you know, you hear these things is it's, uh, I don't know, I don't know if they feel lucky or happy or, or great. I mean, I definitely feel grateful, but I'm just so glad that I've been able to, you know, incorporate fun, figure things out. And, you know, what's making it more fun is that I realized, okay, if I want to do a thing, like running, I can only go one speed now. Which is pretty slow. So I'm probably a level up from where I started. So I'm still not, you know, running 10 miles an hour. But I am making enough progress to where things are fun, and I feel renewed? Um, yeah, I feel I feel, I feel like things are more fun again, it's, it's interesting. You know, and I think, psychologically, for me, this is just my belief that I, of course, have no no, no scientific knowledge of this, but I believe that, you know, being able to try every day is good. Keeping a positive, a relatively positive mindset. I mean, I still have days where stuff is tough, right. And I, I get down, but I continue to stick with it. And I continue to remind myself, just go slow and build up. You know, and that helps. And I, you know, when sometimes I make a lot of jokes, which I do that in therapy, sometimes to my detriment, because I think I take therapy sessions, sometimes completely off the rails, because I'm so busy with jokes, with my therapy teams, but um, you know, that helps. It helps me quite a bit, maybe, maybe you're not as into humor as I am. But I feel like, the more I make fun of myself and make jokes, and it makes everything less intimidating, it makes me It reminds me, it's okay to laugh at myself, have a good time make other while I'm trying to do the series work, I'm also being light hearted, make fun of myself, make fun of sometimes people around me, try not not to do it in an unproductive way. But um, you know, I think when you approach stroke, covery, and your daily life and sort of those difficult conversations about stroke, and you inject that humor, makes it more approachable, and it makes, it helps other people understand. It makes it less, you know, intimidating. In some regards, and, you know, with humor, you bring people into the conversation, you know, you just kind of remove some of the stigmas around things. And I know, it's it's not for everybody, but I feel like putting humor and fun at the front of everything I do will make everything better and easier. For me, that may not be the same approach for everybody. Everybody may not benefit from that. But I think the more we can joke about stroke in a positive way when Not stroke specifically. Because as someone who drives said, when I try and say, I think more is like as in support groups, the more I think this is universal to anything we do, I don't think it's it's specific stroke and brain injury and think it's specific death. Really anything about the survivor community. Other than that, it just, you know, I notice when I'm laughing and smiling, everything around me feels better. When they're making people laugh and smile, maybe around me, and it has nothing to do with stroke, but it kind of it just, it spills over into other things. And I think it's, you know, it just it just, again, I keeps going back to this. Stroke is a really hard thing to overcome. I don't think majority of people will ever understand how difficult it is. And I think when you're able to share things in a humorous and uplifting way, it it removes some of the stigma, it helps people understand it. Yeah, I think I think the last thing I'll touch on on serious note is, is that, obviously, there's nothing I can do to change people's opinions about stroke, or, you know, help them understand. But I do feel like in general, the majority of people learn best when things are humorous or funny, or you're able to share information in a approachable and fun way, like, not everybody, but I think the majority of people like if you make learning fun, it's actually a lot of fun. And again, you know, I'll give her credit, I think, I think Leah Turner from you might know her from LinkedIn, she said, and honestly, she's not the first words to say it. But she's somebody who said it recently. I don't know. I can't remember if it was a post or a Twitter thing. I think she hasn't said she actually said it on Twitter. And she's like a LinkedIn. If you know her, she's got tattoos. I feel like everybody should know Leah Turner, especially if you're on LinkedIn, but she's also on Twitter. And she said that, like, she's like he like I'm not gonna read this. You know what she said? She said, I'm not going to read your goddamn newsletter, if it's not funny, because I'm not even if you're going to teach me something. I need it to be funny, or humorous, or some way of retaining the information because we are bombarded with shit endlessly. And again, this is not unique to stroke survivors and breaches of SAR, IRAs. Clearly, anybody, you know, and I know she does talk a lot about ADHD. So there may be a correlation that I'm not connecting the dots myself, but I think everybody wants information. And like the last example, like I, I've listened to some new podcasts. I got into comedy podcasts again recently. But a podcast I love Kuperman lab. Great information. He's amazing. He's got tons of information, but is so dry. I mean, I don't know if it was a couple episodes on YouTube that I was watching recently. But I mean, again, he's a great, great, great professor. I mean, he's got tons of information, tons of great stuff, but it is. I can't retain any of it because it's so not in my style. And again in believes Andrew, human, human lab grade podcast, I recommend it to everybody, but it's just yeah, I, I honestly, I want I bought that information, but I just want somebody else to present it to me because I just like, it's so good. It's, it is. It is my favorite thing. But I would always rather read a book of that information and read it in my own head. Because, you know, it may have just been the couple episodes I watched on YouTube where it was particular you know, I don't know if there were earlier I can't remember which ones specifically I was watching but it was him by himself a little bit of talking head which is another thing. I think if you're going to do a podcast solo and you're going to video it you have to have to have to be somebody that is able to do a little bit of improv funny expression like he's just key you can't be sitting there reading the teleprompter. I don't want to watch that. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't turn it off faster. I take I didn't turn it off faster because I like him a lot. Okay, I want to I want to be clear about that. He's a great podcast or a great professor. I'm sure I've never Hatem, Stanford alum, but really good, really good. But the talking head and the lack of facial expressions, it's unwatchable. To be honest, the information is great, which is why didn't turn it off. But I definitely wasn't looking at my TV was playing live on YouTube. So take that for what it's worth. I don't think I like the idea of video podcasting. I want to get my podcast so we're on YouTube, I want to be able to do things that way. I haven't filmed a lot yet doing this podcast. I'm not sure. Even I'm that good at it anymore. You know, I'll be honest, stroke took a toll on me. I'm not just as quick as I used to be. I'm not, you know, I'm still very conversational, as you can tell by this episode. However, you know, I'm thinking, I'm just gonna say it. I'm thinking of starting another podcast, maybe in conjunction with this one. I'm going to keep doing this because I believe in it. I think it's great. I like how it's going. I may, I may find a co host for this show. Or I may do a second show with a friend where it's just kind of fun. And we're having conversation. And I'll tell you why. Because I was listening to Bert Bert. kreischer, and yeah, two bears won't cave and then the bird cast and I was watching Bert with Sarah, Sarah Silverman, and, you know, just sort of conversation. It was so good. And I forgot how much I love Bert easy. He's a great comedian. Lots of great comedians have podcasts. And I just I like that style. It's, it speaks to me. And you know, that's where I got the fun and having fun in daily life. But you know, I could go on for hours on that. But uh, anyways, let's recap a couple things. So it'd be at the top of this episode, I did talk about some things of watching on Netflix, which is Arnold highly recommended. Pretty good podcast that just mentioned. All those are relevant to this theme. Again, I love hearing podcasts. Just the ones I watched recently, were not my favorite, but I'm not pleased. You know, he's He's a phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal podcaster. And the information is valuable and priceless. So definitely recommend that. Oh, I know. Totally unnecessary show on Netflix. If you're into the cartoon space, and you like Adult Comedy and human resources had new episodes just released. It's a ridiculous show. I don't even know I watch it. But, you know, sometimes you just need a thing that is for adults and, you know, takes your mind off of other things. So if you're into a little bit of weirdness, yeah, human resources. Great, great, great show. Again, remember that, I don't know if that's your type of fun, but that's definitely a funny show. So highly recommend. And book was, again, Rick Rubin's book is fantastic. I just started Paris a memoir. Her book is great. We're really enjoying it so far. And yeah, just remember saying no takes practice. There are hurdles when it comes to saying no to me to email the show, if you have any questions, suggestions, concerns, email, the Show podcast at Lone Wolf survivor.com. And on a positive note. I don't know. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode. And yeah, I don't know. Let's have a let's have a goal for the week. Let's let's see if we can do something fun. Yeah, I'm excited to hear what everybody's up to. I'm going to enjoy the week with my family at a town and probably record a few more episodes this week. So until next week, I hope you have fun. I hope you say no and bye for now.